chuck hagel, they are going to vote again next week. what is the feeling at the pentagon do they expect him to be the next defense secretary? >> oh, yeah. i think everybody anticipates him being the next secretary of defense. the issue there is is he a damaged secretary of defense? you have a guy who has got congressional experience, and my experience covering the pentagon all of these years is that political skills are the most important thing that a secretary of defense needs. >> really? >> yeah, because in the end, that's who gives you the money. >> that's whatley on panetta was so good at although he obviously didn't succeed in talking them out of sequester at least not so far. so will chuck hagel -- let's say sec questquestration goes into effect. so he is up there detailing the hor endous effects this is having. how much credibility will he have with congress after he's been through this very messy confirmation process? >> yeah. he will definitely very long some fences to mend with them. and some of them will have some fence to me